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At which moment does someone become a 永久居民 of 加拿大?

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大家好,

At which moment does someone become a 永久居民 of 加拿大? Does it happen when the positive decision is made on his/her application (irrespective of the immigration category)? Or, when the PR visa is issued and placed in that person's passport? Or, when this person actually 土地s in 加拿大? Or, when this person receives the PR card?

From which of these moments this person is considered a 永久居民 of 加拿大 in CIC's view? Where is the borderline? Is there a document/publication/law that specifies that? All I was able to find was wikipedia:

期限"landed immigrant"(法文:immigrantreçu)是已被接纳为非加拿大公民永久居民的加拿大人的旧分类。这种人目前的官方分类很简单"permanent resident". 期限"Landed immigrant"已经使用了很长时间,以至于它仍然是加拿大词汇的一部分,并仍然出现在一些政府出版物和表格中。

要成为加拿大境外的登陆移民,必须合法进入加拿大,或者"land",位于指定的入境口之一。入境时,移民护照上将印有以下字样:"Immigrant Landed". Once the immigrant has 土地ed, an IMM 1000 form (Record of Landing or Confirmation of 永久居留权) will be given to provide an official record of 土地ed status. If granted a permanent residency visa while living in 加拿大 as a temporary resident (for example on a study or work permit or holding a visitor record), the applicant must still officially 土地 and achieve the 土地ed immigrant status. Previously many have left the country through the U.S./Canada border, either entering the U.S. or receiving a refusal notice, and then re-entered 加拿大 through customs. Since late 2008 some, but not most, may now "land"在加拿大公民及移民加拿大办事处。

................................................... ........

在加拿大境内 vs 加拿大以外 application.

The 永久居留权 process has two categories that are a critical part of the process and can have very different effects if a person applies incorrectly. While the "Application Status"CIC网站上的Web应用程序反映了类别差异,在应用时未明确识别其后果。

一个人的申请"Landed Immigrant"来自加拿大内部被称为"Within 加拿大" application.

来自加拿大境外的申请是"Outside 加拿大" application.

A "Within 加拿大"应用程序导致"原则上批准"申请经过审查后,此时申请人可以申请省级医疗保健,而"Permanent Residence" application is processed. 原则上批准 takes approximately 17 months.

An "Outside 加拿大"该应用程序适用于那些打算重新安置但尚未搬迁并且在成为公关之前不打算搬迁的人。它不会导致"原则上批准"因为假定申请人在流程完成之前没有动弹,并且该人拥有"Permanent Residence"卡在手。申请人可以作为访客进入该国,然后进入"Visitor Record;"但在整个过程完成之前,您将没有资格获得驾驶执照或医疗保健等社交元素的资格。截至2014年4月,该过程需要15到24个月。


但是,这仍无法澄清某人成为公关的具体时间。
 

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It is from the 土地ed date in 加拿大.
 

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GREAKLY said:
Hello, everybody,

At which moment does someone become a 永久居民 of 加拿大? Does it happen when the positive decision is made on his/her application (irrespective of the immigration category)? Or, when the PR visa is issued and placed in that person's passport? Or, when this person actually 土地s in 加拿大? Or, when this person receives the PR card?

From which of these moments this person is considered a 永久居民 of 加拿大 in CIC's view? Where is the borderline? Is there a document/publication/law that specifies that? All I was able to find was wikipedia:

期限"landed immigrant"(法文:immigrantreçu)是已被接纳为非加拿大公民永久居民的加拿大人的旧分类。这种人目前的官方分类很简单"permanent resident". 期限"Landed immigrant"已经使用了很长时间,以至于它仍然是加拿大词汇的一部分,并仍然出现在一些政府出版物和表格中。

要成为加拿大境外的登陆移民,必须合法进入加拿大,或者"land",位于指定的入境口之一。入境时,移民护照上将印有以下字样:"Immigrant Landed". Once the immigrant has 土地ed, an IMM 1000 form (Record of Landing or Confirmation of 永久居留权) will be given to provide an official record of 土地ed status. If granted a permanent residency visa while living in 加拿大 as a temporary resident (for example on a study or work permit or holding a visitor record), the applicant must still officially 土地 and achieve the 土地ed immigrant status. Previously many have left the country through the U.S./Canada border, either entering the U.S. or receiving a refusal notice, and then re-entered 加拿大 through customs. Since late 2008 some, but not most, may now "land"在加拿大公民及移民加拿大办事处。

................................................... ........

在加拿大境内 vs 加拿大以外 application.

The 永久居留权 process has two categories that are a critical part of the process and can have very different effects if a person applies incorrectly. While the "Application Status"CIC网站上的Web应用程序反映了类别差异,在应用时未明确识别其后果。

一个人的申请"Landed Immigrant"来自加拿大内部被称为"Within 加拿大" application.

来自加拿大境外的申请是"Outside 加拿大" application.

A "Within 加拿大"应用程序导致"原则上批准"申请经过审查后,此时申请人可以申请省级医疗保健,而"Permanent Residence" application is processed. 原则上批准 takes approximately 17 months.

An "Outside 加拿大"该应用程序适用于那些打算重新安置但尚未搬迁并且在成为公关之前不打算搬迁的人。它不会导致"原则上批准"因为假定申请人在流程完成之前没有动弹,并且该人拥有"Permanent Residence"卡在手。申请人可以作为访客进入该国,然后进入"Visitor Record;"但在整个过程完成之前,您将没有资格获得驾驶执照或医疗保健等社交元素的资格。截至2014年4月,该过程需要15到24个月。


但是,这仍无法澄清某人成为公关的具体时间。
The previous answer is correct. You only become a PR at the moment you and the CBSA / CIC official countersigns your COPR document with you during the 土地ing interview. Until then, your application is still in progress, even if you have received your COPR and visa. It can be terminated right up to that last moment if something makes you inadmissible to 加拿大.
 

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zardoz said:
The previous answer is correct. You only become a PR at the moment you and the CBSA / CIC official countersigns your COPR document with you during the 土地ing interview. Until then, your application is still in progress, even if you have received your COPR and visa. It can be terminated right up to that last moment if something makes you inadmissible to 加拿大.
感谢您的信息。您可以参考任何支持这种观点的文档吗?
 

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GREAKLY said:
感谢您的信息。您可以参考任何支持这种观点的文档吗?
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2013/ob545-mod.asp and http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/section-71.1.html as well as Canadian Federal Court case law, particularly in reference to the application not being completed until the moment of actual "landing".
您显然有理由提出这个问题。介意解释吗?
 

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zardoz said:
您显然有理由提出这个问题。介意解释吗?
当然。我是加拿大人,我的妻子是俄罗斯人。目前,我们正在俄罗斯居住,正在等待我妻子的PR申请批准(到现在已经2年了)。我妻子的父母想作为游客来加拿大(和美国)。旅游签证申请表上的问题之一是询问他们是否有加拿大公民或PR的亲戚。他们应该回答什么?

一周前,我的妻子收到了护照申请信。她的在线申请状态也已更改为"decision made". So, it's possible to assume that her application for PR has been approved. However, she doesn't have the PR visa (yet), she hasn't 土地ed and she doesn't have the PR card. At this point, is she a PR or not (from CIC's point of view) in regards to her parents tourist visa application?

我试图与CIC联系,但他们的帮助热线无法从国外获得。当地大使馆的签证处根本不接任何电话。我在签证中心与几个不同的人交谈,他们对这个问题有不同的看法。我唯一能肯定地确定那个女son(我 :D)不被视为出于移民目的的亲戚。但是目前还没有人告诉我我的妻子是否是公关人员。
 

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从加拿大境内致电1.888.242.2100
 

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GREAKLY said:
当然。我是加拿大人,我的妻子是俄罗斯人。目前,我们正在俄罗斯居住,正在等待我妻子的PR申请批准(到现在已经2年了)。我妻子的父母想作为游客来加拿大(和美国)。旅游签证申请表上的问题之一是询问他们是否有加拿大公民或PR的亲戚。他们应该回答什么?

一周前,我的妻子收到了护照申请信。她的在线申请状态也已更改为"decision made". So, it's possible to assume that her application for PR has been approved. However, she doesn't have the PR visa (yet), she hasn't 土地ed and she doesn't have the PR card. At this point, is she a PR or not (from CIC's point of view) in regards to her parents tourist visa application?

我试图与CIC联系,但他们的帮助热线无法从国外获得。当地大使馆的签证处根本不接任何电话。我在签证中心与几个不同的人交谈,他们对这个问题有不同的看法。我唯一能肯定地确定那个女son(我 :D)不被视为出于移民目的的亲戚。但是目前还没有人告诉我我的妻子是否是公关人员。
目前,她绝对不是公关人员。毫无疑问。
 

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zardoz said:
目前,她绝对不是公关人员。毫无疑问。
走 od. Could that be an issue if my wife 土地s before her parents come to 加拿大? In other words, she is not a PR at the moment they apply for the tourist visas. However, by the time they come to 加拿大 (which should be in 3+ months from now), she could get a PR visa and, even, 土地 (effectively becoming a PR). So, could that fact cause troubles for her parents' trip to 加拿大?
 

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polara69 said:
plus 1!
我希望事情很清楚。我在签证中心与几个人交谈,他们似乎对此事有不同的看法。有人说,我妻子一旦收到PR卡,便会成为PR。另一人说,这是在她的护照上贴有PR签证贴纸时发生的。我问他是否确定。他说,从贴上标签的那一刻起,她就以PR的形式出现在他们的系统中(无论如何)。
 

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ttrajan said:
从加拿大境外致电ic 613.944.4000。
从加拿大境内致电1.888.242.2100
拨打上述号码致电CIC并确认。
 

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GREAKLY said:
我希望事情很清楚。我在签证中心与几个人交谈,他们似乎对此事有不同的看法。有人说,我妻子一旦收到PR卡,便会成为PR。另一人说,这是在她的护照上贴有PR签证贴纸时发生的。我问他是否确定。他说,从贴上标签的那一刻起,她就以PR的形式出现在他们的系统中(无论如何)。
我引用了一个明确的CIC操作公告和IRPR的相关部分。
坦白说,如果这还不够好,那么与您交谈的对象并不重要。
Finally, in a last desperate attempt to put this to rest, read Section 12 of http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/enf/enf04-eng.pdf
 

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zardoz said:
我引用了一个明确的CIC操作公告和IRPR的相关部分。
坦白说,如果这还不够好,那么与您交谈的对象并不重要。
Finally, in a last desperate attempt to put this to rest, read Section 12 of http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/enf/enf04-eng.pdf
再次感谢你的帮助。我没有在这件事上和你争论。我只是想表明,即使在政府雇员中,对此问题也有多少困惑。他们如何期望普通人能解决这个问题?

Could my wife's becoming a PR be an issue if she 土地s before her parents come to 加拿大? She will not be a PR at the time they apply for the tourist visas. However, by the time they come to 加拿大 (which should be in 3+ months from now), she could get a PR visa and, even, 土地 (effectively becoming a PR). So, could that fact cause troubles for her parents' trip to 加拿大?